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revenge. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. predictions for a big blizzard. an historic snowstorm that can cripple the northeast. up to 30 inches of snow forecast. what you need to know. and memo to anyone taking the stage at the awards show. we will see how this sits with the panel. should you get paid overtime? a new lawsuit could mean bigger paychecks for those at home. >> i'm brooke baldwin. we want to begin in southern california. people are on edge as this
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police officer is on the run. 33-year-old christopher jordan dorner. he is wanted for a string of shootings. i want to you look at the description including the vehicle he has been driving around southern california in. here's the thing we heard from the police chief in los angeles. he calls this a vendetta. we are told he wants revenge and had the vendetta against all police. not just lapd, but southern california in general. police are racing to find him before he hits again. doerner is accused of shooting three officers, killing one this morning. police believe he also killed monica quan, the daughter of the captain and killing her fiance over the weekend.
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to the police officers involved, the riverside officers were cowardly ambushed. they had no opportunity to fight back and no prewarning. imagine going about your work day and having to learn about that threat. >> dorner is a highly skilled marksman considered armed and extremely dangerous. here's a timeline of the story. 2008, christopher jordan dorner, just three years on the job as a los angeles cop is fired. he allegedly made false statements about a training officer. dorner leaves the force bitter. in a lengthy letter apparently written by doerner and provided
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to cnn by an lapd source, he alleged 3 threatened to use his navy training to harm police officers involved in the case and their families. quoting here, i will bring unconventional and a symmetrical warfare to those in lapd uniform weather on or off duty. now an irvine couple is shot to death in the parking deck of their upscale complex. the victims are monica quan and her fiance. her father, randy was a retired cop who worked with dorner. inside night, police name christopher jordan dorner the chief suspect in the sunday night murders. police warn the public he is arm and dangerous. dorner is say reservist known to be a skilled marksman. thursday around 1:30 in the morning, ktla reports doerner is spotted in corona. two police officers are in purr
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cute when dorner gets out of the truck and starts firing. one was grazed and the other not hurt. dorner flees. then a short time later, another shooting involving cops. this time in riverside. police say two officers on routine patrol are shot after being ambushed at an intersection. one officer is dead and another critically wounded. authorities are linking both shootings to dorner. live in riverside, paul, me about this manhunt stands at this minute. >> right now no sign of dorner and tension is high in riverside as the officers have set up a gauntlet. this is not very far from where early in the morning. down the street in the distance, he approached the officers on
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patrol fatally killing 1 and wounded another. that officer is in stable condition. this manhunt is spread wide. he has ties to las vegas and understand he made an attempt last night to boat jack, in other words he was trying to commend ear a boat and possibly cross over the border into mexico. no one has seen him since the shooting at 1:30 aim this morning west coast time here in riverside. you have multiple scenes like this where officers have cordoned off parts of the streets. that because the threats are serious saying he will come back and seek revenge. >> the big question other than where is he is the why. we heard from the chief speak a little while ago talking about
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in this fan festo, he is targeting them. according to this manifesto, the chief said that is not going to happen. let me read, terminating me for telling the truth of a caucasian officer and kicking a mentally ill man is disgusting. why does he need his name cleared? >> in police reports, he was fired for making false allegations and suggested that an officer had done what you refer to in that graphic which was kick a mentally ill man. after he was fired, obviously a lot of ill will. he said for being accused of
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making false accusations. >> okay, we will come back to you later. thank you. forming in riverside, california. now to the military angle. i want to go to the military correspondent. we know he was a u.s. reservist. me about what he did in the military. >> he did security for river patrols and he was a lieutenant and recalled the active duty about six years ago and spent about six months in bahrain doing security work there. he talks about the warfare and there is nothing in the record that indicates any sort of special operations training. in his manifesto, he does say i didn't need their honor, courage, and commitment, but i thank them for reinforcing it with me. >> what are about having multiple weapons at his disposal
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including assault rifles. how good of a shooter is he? >> good question. we have been checking sources here. there three levels of marksmanship. marksman, sharpshooter and the top level is expert. with the m-16 he is a marksman. good, but the lowest level. with the nine millimeter, he qualified as expert. the highest award a trailer can receive for weapons qualification. to gain that he would have gone through several courses of 5 both standing and kneeling both strong and weak side firing. something that a lot of shooters have trouble mastering. it can california into play say if you are in a covered position. you would have to expose your body, you would have to get out.
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you can stay concealed and make yourself much less of a target. >> chris lawrence, thank you. i want to talk about the manifesto from corona, california. me more about this manifesto he wrote. >> it's an 11-page single-spaced manifesto extremely detailed. he goes into his history as well. i want to set the scene where i am at. you can see that the police cars are behind me and the officer vehicle that is spot and gave chase to dorner that started all of this carnage this morning, this is where it all began today. looking at in manifesto, what's going on in this man's head. he writes he wants to terminate the family members of the
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officers who he knew in the lapd. i want to pull one bit that i found particularly fascinating and he writes i exhausted all available means at attaining my name back and i attempted all legal court efforts with an appeal of the california appellate courts. this is my last resort. the lapd suppressed the truth and it led to deadly consequences. the lapd's actions cost me my law enforcement career and goes into the dates as well as his naval career. the reason why we are focusing on this is this really tells us what kind of a suspect police are looking at. they said he is armed and dangerous and extremely dangerous. he also writes that he will not stop until he gets that public apology. and the chief said that is not going to happen. that will not happen. >> we will take you back to
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southern california where we have crews everywhere. we top the talk weather from boston, massachusetts. looking lovely right now, but clear skies now. that is about to change in a big way. they are talking about a blizzard to rifle 1978. 27 inches of snow that was blamed for 54 deaths and millions in damage. the storm could be bigger. chad meyers, i want to talk to you about this. about a day away from hitting the east coast. we keep talking boston and this could hit new york city. >> providence, hartford, boston up to new hampshire and maine. all of the big cities across the northeast under the gun here. if you are along i-95, it's going to be a line where north of you somewhere it's going to be 20 to 25 inches. south of you it will be two. that's a big range. they will sneak into part of the
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forecast and not get to the northern part. new york city right now, this computer we are talking about is 15.3 inches of snow. providence is 28.3. the mayor of boston, we showed the picture said please, everybody off the road by noon. city schools are closed. we don't want you stuck on the freeway in a blizzard. this is going happen. people are going to get out with three inches of snow on the ground. they think they will be okay, but they are not. they are going to get stuck in this. three inches now, but two hours later, they will be in eight inches and not going to be able to get out of the car. this happens all the time. get off the road and stay home. >> here's a heads up. i hear you speaking loud and clear. thank you so much for this huge snow event coming up this weekend. now to the hottest stories in a flash. rapid fire. roll it. >> in the next 15 to 20 minutes or so in washington, president obama's nominee for the cia
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chief goes before a senate committee. where he may be grilled about the use of drones and extreme interrogation techniques. i am talking about john brennan whose hearings are set to begin in 15 minutes. she he is a strong supporter of drone strikes and you can expect tough questions on the drones overseas. a neighbor's phone call leads to the rescue of a 17-year-old boy in kansas city, missouri. he was frail, thin, curled up on a concrete basement floor and handcuffed to a pole. he told police he was locked there since september, fed instant oatmeal and ramen noodles and bologna sandwiches and allowed to use the bathroom three times a day. >> he had lost a lot of weight. he looked very grayish kind of. like that pale gray color.
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they said he was very dehydrated. >> what are did you feel seeing that? >> i was heartbroken honestly. >> there is a court hearing under way in the case. we will have much more on the story ahead in the show. trying to destroy the bunker where the man held the little boy hostage in alabama for almost a week. this is how officials describe this small space. you know the story. fbi agents rescued using military equipment. this child monday killed the kidnapper. they said no one should see this place. >> hackers stole banking executives's personal information. the fed said the security breech was not brief and did not affect critical operations. the group anonymous claiming responsibility for the attack. they are targeting several u.s. banks in recent months. he confessed to oprah and may
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well, things are not exactly looking great for lance armstrong post oprah confession. we learned sports insurance company promotions is coming after him. they paid him millions in bonuses and they want the money back. armstrong could be facing federal changes. abc news learned the that investigators charge whim obstruction and intimidation and witness tampering and we know this. in an effort to clean up cycling shlg the u.s. anti-doping organization is giving him two weeks to decide if he wants to speak with them under oath. joining me now is holly hughes. defense attorney and former prosecutor who has written this "new york times" best selling back and represents a bunch of
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folks in the industry. welcome to both of you. let me begin with you on the legal angle. i guess if he comes clean to u sadda, what legal fallout can he face? >> she confessing to crimes and what trips the athletes up, what did they get in trouble for? for lie being it. for obstructing justice. the government doesn't like it when you mess with them. >> they want to know what he did and how dhee it. >> they want him to drop a dime on everybody else. they are extending the period and say come to the table and give us evidence so that not only do we get you, mr. armstrong, but everybody else. we want the big fish. everything that is involved in this. they don't like to be lied to and they can face up to five years alone. >> you talk about emotions and
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how that sort of directly proportional to choices one may make. poor choices in a career. what relationship did he have with his father? >> he was abandoned by his dad. your quest and the energy you put into attaining fame is directly proportionate to how broken and unlove and unloveable you felt as a child. they catalyze you to seek approval, recognition, and love, all the things that lance armstrong apparently never receiveed from his dad. >> i want to get back to self-sabotage and the culture of ring. the other athletes you mentioned. he said yes, i was a bully. what can we learn about charges of intimidation? >> it depends. i don't know if he went after people involved in the doping
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scandal. you can be a bully, but it depends on who you are bullyings. if it was in correlation to don't tell on me and admit to the drug use and implicate me and use my name, it doesn't have to be a direct threat. it can be you will pay. it can be as vague as you will regret it. he is a hero and a lot of people love him. if lance armstrong said something to you and this is a simple allegation, we don't know what he said, but if he said i will make you sorry, that can be intimidation. anything do to prevent someone from testifying from the government. >> why would anyone want to do that? the dwoeft win is so strong. >> the thing about lance armstrong and so many other people. david petraeus and arnold schwarzenegger and others, their emotions are so strong that they
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>> a manhunt under way in southern california for an ex-cop suspected in the shooting deaths of several people including a police officer. we are told this man here in the photograph is 33-year-old christopher jordan dorner. he wants revenge and has a vendetta against all police in
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southern california. l.a. police chief talked about this highly trained marksman. >> of course he knows what he's doing. we trained him and he was a member of the armed forces. it is extremely worry some and scary. especially to the police officers involved. the riverside officers were cowardly ambush and had no opportunity to fight back and no prewarning. imagine going about your work day having to worry about that. >> for obvious reasons, people in southern california on edge right now. police chief said dorner should be considered armed and extremely dangerous. if you see his car, do not approach him. pick up the phone and call police. much more from the scene on the story at the top of the hour. we want to get down to the hottest topics you will be
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talking about at the dinner table beginning with this use of drones to target and kill suspected terrorists overseas. expected to get a good hard look this afternoon on capitol hill. the man who oversees the white house kill list is appearing in front of the senate intelligence committee. john brennan is president obama's pick to head america's spy agency, the cia and some democrats plan to grill him about the drone program. one of the bigger issues, how it justifies marking americans for death by drone strike. let me bring in the panel for you. ben stein, back today. editor in chief of the daily download and also syndicated columnist, you can read his work as and a contributor to the "huffington post" and a regular on the show, legal analyst and prosecutor sunny hostin. welcome to all of you. let me begin with you here.
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what do you think? under what circumstances should the u.s. be allowed to kill americans. >> under the law, the first situation should be that the u.s. actually brings a single charge against the people that it is targeting for assassination. that is missed. we are having a drone war that's going on. the u.s. citizens that have been targeted for assassination have not been charged with crimes. there is supposed to be a check on power and the question should be why is the government not charging the people it is assassinating with a single crime. it shouldn't be hard if the evidence is so overwhelming and you want to execute somebody. it shouldn't be too much to ask for the government to at least bring a charge of a crime. the fact that the government hasn't should raise real questions about who is on the president's kill list and who is being targeted. >> another part of the story is
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collateral damage. he target and killed in yemen and ended up killing his son, the 16-year-old who meant no harm and was taken out. at what point can we go too far? lauren? >> i think that americans have a right to know who is murdering in their name. a lot of that has to do with this great scoop that michael is kof had out of abc news. as far as the involvement in the information that came out, we have a right to know that. it's not operational movements by troops. i think that people would like to know who is being kill and targeted. >> how much should we know? i know a lot of people are pushing and i know that paper that now the white house agreed to let folks in congress take a look at, some people are pushing
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to let the public lift the vail of secrecy. what do you think? how much should we know is too much too much? >> there is a tension here between national security and the need to know and the transparency in the law. i do think under the constitution people should be concerned that americans are being assassinated without due process as has been mentioned already without being charged and being seen in a court of law. you also have this war on terror. how much do we need to know ultimately that could compromise national security? i think that's where the tension is right now. >> ben stein, what do you think about all of this? >> the whole world has changed. i agree with what all the people before me. it is hard for the president to
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give himself a license to kill. we are at war as they say in the james bond movies, who cannot be found easily and we went bring them before a court of law and they mean harm to americans. it does involve putting a lot of trust in the president and national security adviser and the cia to do it right, but i don't see an alternative and we cannot let the people who intend to do harm to americans and innocent people all over the world wander around freely without stopping them in some way. as to indict them in a court of law, it would be wonderful to do it, but it's not the way the world works. >> we have to go to riverside, california. a lot of you have been following the story. the chief of police in riverside on the manhunt for the former cop, christopher jordan dorner. >> we have a run down of what occurred in the city of riverside. at 1:35 in the morning, two of
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our officers in a marked black and white unit in full uniform were attacked in a cowardly ambush. the officers were stopped at a red light at the corner of magnolia and arlington. magnolia facing south at arlington at a red light. they were not involved in enforcement action. they were stopped anyway. a vehicle pulled up next to them and the driver of that vehicle fired multiple rounds from the rifle. both officers were wounded. one officer, a 34-year-old man, 11-year veteran with the police department is deceased. the other officer, 27-year-old officer is seriously wounded,
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but we expect a full recovery. at this point i would like to make one point very clear. we know that some of our local media have been given a name of a deceased officer. without confirming that name, we are asking the media to not publish that for the time being. i will explain why. the person with whom we are dealing, the criminal with whom we are dealing made it clear he considers police officers and their families fair game for his assaults. we don't know if that would extend to the families of our officers who were assaulted today. from an abundance of caution, we are asking that if you think you have the name of the wound ed o
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deceased, we are pleading to a sense of ethics and public safety. do not release that. we are asking you not to release that. once the suspect is in custody, it will be a moot point. the suspect assaulted our officer and then drove away. the families of the wounded and deceased have been notified now. the -- i wanted to reassure the cizens of riverside, we don't believe there was anything about the city or specifically the police officers that this individual was targeting. we know from reading his so-called manifesto even before he started on the crime spree,
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he communicated his sense with the people with whom he a dreef griefance and so were any other police officers on or off duty. there is no connection to our city. the lapd has identified a number of residences and persons at risk from throughout the region. none of those are in the city of riverside. what we know is that approximately 20 minutes preceding the attack on our officers, there was an incident in the city of corona where we believe the same individual attacked lapd officers. at this time i would introduce the chief from the criminal police department to speak on that. >> thank you, sir. chief michael abel. as the chief mentioned, 20
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minutes before their incident that will take us shortly after 1:00 this morning, the corona police department received 911 calls regarding an officer shot at the magnolia off-ramp at northbound i-15. corona dispatch dispatched to surrounding agencies. s several surrounding agencies rendered aid to the injured lapd officer. about 20 minutes later at 1199, an officer down broadcast put out which all responding officers responded to. the crime scene in corona is being processed in cooperation by local police department and the corona police department. on behalf of all law enforcement, our thoughts and prayers are with the riverside and los angeles police departments along with their families for the senseless tragedies that occurred today. i will turn it over to chief perez to speak about the
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incident and the officers. >> good morning. jose perez junior. operations central bureau. as previously recorded, we had two officers as part of a protection bureau and flagged down by a citizen who reported seeing the suspect in his vehicle. the officers gave chase by magnolia off the 15 exit. the officers were selling for a shoulder weapon. one one officer received a graze wound to the head and sustained numerous hits. the officers were able to call in through their cell phone and a couple of citizens. wear assisting corona police
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department with the administrative investigation as happens at all officer-involved shootings. corona is an agency on the criminal investigation here. our officer is being treat and we don't expect him to sustain any serious injury. >> i wanted to mention several individuals representing the city and county government in riverside starting with bailey. all of the members of the city council were present as well as the city manager and assistant city manager and we had as we always do in these cases tremendous support from the city government and we are grateful for that.
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again, from the district attorney's office, frank was here. >> i'm the assistant district attorney in charge of criminal operations here in riverside. on behalf of district attorney paul zeller back and the entire district attorney's office, we express condolences to the family and colleagues of the slain officer as well as the other victims and loved ones in the tragic incident. the district attorney's office has mobilized the bureau of investigations and they are on tactical alert. the investigators are actively assisting and participating in the search for the suspect. additionally we have also designated two of our homicide unit prosecutor who is responded to crime scenes both in corona
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as well as riverside as described by the chief who will be involved in this matter and are involved as we speak following every detail so that we can be prepared to ensure that justice is done when the suspect is apprehended. >> we are ready to take questions in a minute. i wanted to emphasize that as always on these cases, the tragedies elicit cooperation among law enforcement agencies for the people of this city and county. of our nation. in this building we have an intelligence center that includes not only the agencies that you see represented here. also the california highway patrol and the fbi and u.s.
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marshall's office. it includes regular ongoing briefings that bring in the investigators from the corona police department from the irvine police department in los angeles and riverside. i wanted to acknowledge this huge amount of outpouring of sympathy from the public and public agencies and unlimited offers of assistance. >> why was he in the city? >> there is nothing that ties him to the city. we don't know why he was in corona. there was a significant event and the contact with this gentlemen, at arlington and
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magnolia was the only contact that we know about. he depart the city afterwards. >> he uses the term coward and what do you think of the suspect? >> my spn on principal. you are right. the manifesto speaks for itself in the deprave and abandoned and court leeway you ambush and speak to it. >> you said that there is no connection that this man has to this city? your ties to the lapd in the past would that have anything to do with it? >> i didn't participate and appear to be at the root of the grievances. i don't believe so. i can't named. >> sounds like your officers
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were ambushed. was there intelligence and any warning given that the lapd was looking for the suspect? did the officers last night on the patrol have any idea there was a chance this suspect might do something like that? >> the officer was disseminated and the fbi joint regional television center. all law enforcement were aware of that. they disseminated the information about the suspect and his vehicle and his intent. as i believe all agencies did last night. by the way, i wanted to add for the same reasons we are asking not to print the names of our officers, we don't want too much detail, but i look forward to when this person is in custody,
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being able to share heroic acts on the part of civilian members of the city. >> how do you patrol the streets and get out and put these people in danger in you are police officers. >> we made certain modifications to the deployment. to the way we -- there deviations and i want to leave it at that. also we are concept rating on the call for priority and threats to public safety essentially. >> the report that lapd officers who were fired upon were protecting someone from this guy. did you have anything like that? >> no. >> someone saw in that officer
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blocking off a street and wonder figure that was connected. >> first of all, no connection. we had an incident around the plaza. it's not related to this. this two-man unit. they have the threat out there. >> this was a two-man unit. the officers were in training. the other was the trainer. >> you said there were witnesses, did these people come to the aid of the officers and had they not intervened. you had two officers killed on the department this morning. >> possibly. at least one person came to the aid of the officer and
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participation? >> the officer is in training. >> not just in terms of what you kept safe. you lost a guy. one of your own. from an emotional standpoint, this has to be tough on you. >> for doesn't get easier. we have a lot of tasks to accomplish. we have to catch the criminal and prepare for prosecution. we have to give the prept send off to the fallen brother. for me what i have to do is taking care of the family is troubling. we will do that. they are our family too.
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>> how many more details of his 11 years on the force? >> not really. i have told you, he's a training officer and very well-respected individual. he is respected for the tactical prowess and we will leave it at that. once we are able to tell you who that is, more biographical. >> chief, there reports that perhaps officers in the city of corona may have apprehended a suspect that matches the description of the guy they are looking for? >> that information is not correct. >> can you speak to the scope of the search right now? the manhunt, if you will. how many of them and the number of officers involved and
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agencies involved. >> of course it's about the scope of the search. you folks term the manhunt. i couldn't tell you the number of agencies or officers. i will tell you this, the person suspected of doing this is mobile. >> we will jump out of this, but we have been listening to the better part of 20 minutes. riverside and corona, california. it's a frightening time today and the last couple of days in southern california as this man, this former cop, ex-reservist and military christopher jordan dorner has been involved in a string of shootings, some involving police officers. that is why we were dipping into riverside, california. that is the most recent shooting that we know of according to police. around 1:45 today there was a
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murder and attempted murder on two riverside police officers and part of what is frightening is this guy a parent she not only targeting police, but their families. the suspect said my opinion of the suspect is unprintable. we have to talk more about this suspect and why he might be doing this and more about the manifesto and why he is intent on clearing his name and why he needs to clear his name. more on the termination and his past and what's happening right now, coming up. push-ups or sprints? what's wrong with fetch? or chase? let's do this larry! ooh, i got it, i got it! (narrator) the calorie-smart nutrition in beneful healthy weight... includes grains and real chicken, because a healthy dog is a playful dog. beneful healthy weight. find us on facebook to help put more play in your day.
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confirmation hearings is under way. they are nominated to be the chief of the cia. just a minute ago, once this hearing began, there were protesters that came up. dianne feinstein, the senator had to gavel the whole thing. let's watch what happened a moment ago. we don't have it. all right. as soon as we have it, you will see it and you can see the hearing is under way now. let's continue on at the top of the hour. live in atlanta, frightening times in southern california as a flofr fipolice officer fired job is on the run and wants revenge. this is a vendetta against all police in southern california. here's his picture. i want you to take a good long look. this is 33-year-old christopher jordan dorner. he is wanted in connection with a string of shootings.
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he is accused of shooting three officers and killing one this morning in riverside, california. he is also wanted in connection with the killing of monica quan, the daughter of retired lapd captain randall quan and her fiance last weekend. here is what the chief said just a short time ago. >> the person with whom we are dealing has made it clear he considers police officers and their families fair game for his assaults. we don't know if that extents to the families of our officers who were assaulted today. >> we want to go to corona, california. you see the police tape and the cars behind you. remind us what happened in corona and me where this thing stands right now. >> you were just talking about the string of shootings, brooke.
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this is where today's shootings began. over my right shoulder behind the vehicles is the black and white. that did engage in some sort of shooting with dorner. what police are telling us is just after 1:00 this morning, officers, lapd officers in this area were about an hour southeast of los angeles got a report that dorner was in the area. they spotted him. they chased him and then he opened fire on them. one officer grazed in the head by a bullet. he could not chase dorner. a short time, minutes later, about 15 minutes away is riverside. there was another shooting. another officer was killed. the other partner was seriously wounded. those officers according to the riverside police department were ambushed and n what they describe as simply cowardly. it has been a frightening and bloot
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bloody day here in southern california. >> as we heard earlier talking about what he called mistaken identity shooting in torrance, california. tell me what happened there. >> it's important to point this out. this really speaks to the nervousness of the officers in all of southern california. what happened this morning in torrance, near a home that was already under police protection because of this manifesto written by dorner, what officers saw was a blue pickup truck driving bay, a car similar in description to the vehicle they were looking for that dorner was seen driving. officers opened fire on the vehicle and thought it was acting suspicious. the two people were delivering newspapers. they were innocent victims and the police chief as you mentioned calling this a sad case of mistaken identity. >> thank you. we want to bring in mike brooks and analyst at our sister network, hln.
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so much to talk about here. i want to get to the manifesto and you see this police chief talking. this guy was trained. he worked with the l.a. police department and he's an ex-reservist. he is trained well and appears to know what he was doing. >> he was an officer in the naval reserve. he know what is he's doing. he knows weapons and he's a rifle and pistol marksman in the reserves and has been well-trained. the best trained officers in the country. from 2005 to 2008, this scares the hell out of me. >> i want to read this first one. you better have all your officers, radio phone muster onna and off duty every hour on the hour. you may have the resources and manpower, but you are reactive and predictable. i have the strength and benefits of being unpredictable and unconventional and unforgiving. how do you stay a step ahead of
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this guy? not only does he know what the officers are doing, but knows how to respond. >> he does. he knows about the elite unit that includes the swooth team. these men and women are out there protecting the higher ups in the lapd from serious injury or death because of this guy. they are out there doing the protection. from the sounds of his manifest, it sounds like she extremely well-armed. >> looking down at my notes, multiple weapons including assault rifles and violence of the actions will be high. >> one paragraph said the violence will be high and the reason tack alert was established. the tack team. at the bottom of that, this is what scares me. i also own barrett 50s. apc is defunct and futile. the one you saw, this is the
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bullet. this is the bullet from a 50 caliber. >> it's as big as my hand. >> i fired a barrett and it's lethal range. almost 2,000 yards. >> legal to get your hands on one of these? >> yeah. it's a rifle. some people own them. very, very expensive, but if he has access, that's not good. >> listening to the police chief saying earlier, we didn't know this. it was wednesday, san diego, 8:30 at night and tried to steal a boat. we were talking to him from riverside. he could have tried to head to mexico. >> he was assigned to the harbor division of lapd. he left the reserves and came back and he knows boats and waterways extremely well. >> how do you function as a police officer? he was a riverside chief saying our guys and women are not
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responding to dogs and tree calls, but you hear him talking about how he is not targeting police, but also family. you want to serve and protect, but you need to be protected in times like these as well. >> so many family members and higher ups, they have to be careful of everything they do right now. everywhere you go. you have the daughter of the retired captain killed over the weekend. >> and her fiance. >> and everyone else listed in this manifesto. he know what is the capabilities of law enforcement are because he was one for so many years. it's extremely scary. i haven't seen a case like this ever where you had someone like this who has written a manifesto and threatened to carry out the acts of violence and could have the capability of doing it. >> they need to catch him and catch him soon. >> especially after he ambushed the officers in riverside and killed one. now the biggest stories here
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today in a flash. roll it. . president obama is getting tough questions about the u.s. covert activities. here he is. john brennan's confirmation hearing under way right now. he is expected to be quizzed on the legality of using drones to target americans involved with al qaeda overseas. a huge reversal. president obama reversed the legal justification for the policy to the senate committee and also here, expect to hear questions about his knowledge of interrogation techniques like waterboarding during the bush years. a 9-year-old girl has given birth in mexico. 9. hospital officials say she delivered by c-section 11 days ago at this medical facility. the baby girl weighed just under six pounds. mexican authorities are trying to see if they should charge the father with rape or child abuse
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because local media said she he 17 and got out of town after the child's birth. >> they reportedly stole banking executives's personal information. the fed said the security breech was brief and did not affect critical operations. this is the group anonymous claiming responsibility for the attack. hackers have targeted several banks in recent months. it's the battle for king of the bay. speed freaks racing souped up cars on the frozen lake. they used stud front tires to add weight on the rear for better traction. drivers say you will have to do bumping and grinding and they are limited to spinouts to snow banks. apple said it sold the 25th
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billion itunes song. 25 billion. that's a lot at 99 cents for ten years now. it has become the biggest seller of music. number 25 billion is a riff called monkey drums. the man who put fur on this face has passed away. not my face. this guy. the "star wars" artist helped create chew baca, jabba the hut and yoda. his features came from his own face. lock at him. here's a photo. he was a legend whose artistry and kra craftsmanship will live on forever. he was 98 years old. now this.craftsmanship will liv
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forever. he was 98 years old. now this. >>ar a massive manhunt for a former cop. she considered arm and extremely dangerous. why police believe he may be seeking revenge. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is new. >> a teenager found handcuffed to a in a base hospital ement. the police say he has been there for months. >> shirley mclain's daughter writes a tell all back and the tales she shares. flying to japan alone at 2 to her father, a clone? and then the sex guru. her childhood and shirley mclain's response. coming up.
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>> a new study predicts the number of people suffering for alzheimer's will triple in the coming decade. senior medical correspondent joining me now. my great grandmother had alzheimer's. >> so many families. if we look at 2010 numbers, those numbers are huge. in 2010 we are looking at 4.7 million people with alzheimer's. when we look at 2050, we look at 2.8 million people. we are not prepared for that. we don't have what it takes to take care of them. >> the number of people. >> baby boomers getting older. thank you so much and move and groove towards chad meyers in the cube because we have to talk about this blizzard. something like 40 million people in the northeast could be affected by this? airports will be a mess. i grew up in the south, but
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blizzard parties can be fun. the anticipation is not. >> if you have a blizzard party on the highway. >> people will be driving with a couple inches of snow thinking i can make it, it's only four miles. all of a sudden there is a wreck in front of you and have to stop. by the time the wreck is cleared, there may be eight inches of snow and then you can't move and the national guard has to come get you. that may not be for 24 hours. there will be thousands of people and take the train home or don't go to work. the city schools are closed already. it's rain right now over us. the cold air is up over parts of wisconsin and michigan. they get together and the two storms merge like sandy. it makes a significant blizzard across the northeast. that's parts of long island and
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that will be a warning. i'm sure of it. coastal flooding and a storm surge and waves are five feet on top of that. you are going to have snow across ontario and the members like you were talking about -- >> 31 inches in boston. >> computers are not perfect. let's take that number and go plus or minus 5. 25 to 35 inches of snow. the wind is going to blow 70. you will see seven-foot drifts and the ground. you may not see 30 inches. look how it changes. a couple of inches of snow. here's 40 miles to the west. 20 plus. this is why it's so difficult to put a number on a city. it could be ten plus inches north of and you ten minus south of you. that's how big the storm is. >> a big day tomorrow. we want to make sure people are prepared here if they are headed or in new england. thank you very much. thanks for having me in the cube as well. coming up here, the book that
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shirley mclain won an oscar playing an excentric mother. remember the 1983 film terms of endearment. >> my daughter is in pain. give her the shot! give my daughter the shot! thank you very much. >> what a role. according to her only child, mclain is as much a mother that is stranger than fiction. her book just came out and called lucky me. here they are, mom and daughter. a life magazine shoot. me, my life with and without my mom. parker starts off with mac lean leaving her by herself at 2 years old. frank sinatra according to the book was in trouble with the mob and parker writes word was out
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pay back was coming. one of the rumors was i was in jeopardy of being kidnapped. i was shipped off for safe keeping. parker joins me now from new york. welcome to you. first just crystal clear, these are your stories. we cannot verify them, but before we get into the stories, a couple of adjectives, describe your childhood. >> my childhood was both very, very adventurous and happy, but also very lonely and painful. i don't think there was a gray area. >> no gray. one extreme or the other. >> i think so. >> your stories jump around from being a 2-year-old alone on the plane to japan and you talk about cuddling you and having your mom and two sex gurus egg
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you on to lose your virginity and saying your dad is a clone and the real one is a o a space mission. pick one of those stories and tell the viewers what happened. >> i would have to say my mother was tricked by my conman father into sending him $60,000 a month for many years. saying that he was the clone of my real father and real father was traveling around space working for the government. >> did you ever believe that? >> me? no. that's hard to believe. it's an unbelievable story. >> you were a child. just curious. i know you were late teens. >> actually i was 25 years old when i heard that's story. yeah. >> your mother has responded to your book and said, let me read the statement. it is a painful moment for me as a mother and someone who values
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the truth. i am shock and heartbroken my daughter would make statements about me that are all fiction. i praised her lovingly and truthfully and i am sorry to see the effort from my daughter from whom i only ever wanted the best. how do you react to that? >> it's too bad that she takes it that way. these were my stories and my life to tell. my memories and my intention was certainly never to hurt her. >> never to hurt her, but the story, when was the last time you talked to her? >> it would have been in december. >> how did that conversation go? >> it went very well. we were speaking a lot about my daughter at that time. >> okay. let me quote you here. this is towards the end of your
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book. you said i did everything i could to bring my mom into my life. i bent over backward and left no stone unturned. the big hollywood happy ending never happened and now that i have written this book it probably never will. look, i'm sure you have critics who say maybe you are hoping for your own hollywood ending and want money and fame, what do you tell them? >> this was a timely story for me to write. i was reflecking on my live and had written a journal through my and i thought this was something that would be interesting for people to read. it's a fascinating and interesting story. this is also a way for me to have my mother understand my truth or the truth, really. >> it's called lucky me, my life
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with and without my mom, shirley maclaine. you need to get right to washington to the senate confirmation hearings and being questioned and the topic right now is enhanced interrogation techniques. >> it would be better to kill them with a drone or let them go free rather than detain them. can you explain the logic in that argument? >> i disagree. i never believe it's better to kill a terrorist than to detain him. we want to detain it to elicit them and follow-up on terrorist attacks. i'm a strong propone ept of doing everything possible and bringing them to justice and getting that intelligence from them. i had the impression when i was quoted in 2007 that intelligence came out from the interrogation sessions. i did say that to save lives. i did say that reading the
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report from the committee raises serious questions about the information that i was given at the time, the impression i had at the time. now i have to determine what based on that information as well as what the cia said what the truth is. at this point i do not know what the truth is. >> how many targets have been captured within your service of the administration? >> there have been a number of individuals who have been captured, arrested, detain and interrogated and put away by our partners overseas. we have given them the capacity now and provided them the intelligence and unlike the aftermath of 9/11 when a lot of them were willing and unable to do that, we have given the opportunity. that's where we are working with the partners. >> how many targets have been arrest and detained and cleared by the united states within your four yores with the administration.
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>> in terms of those targets that have been captured with the u.s. intelligence support. >> i submit the answer is one and put on a ship for 60 days and interrogated. thank you. >> thank you very much. >> i want to point out i will try to enforce the eight minutes if you hear a ctapping, it is nt personal. senator? >> thank you, madam chair. welcome. if confirmed, you are going to need an extraordinary agency with extraordinary people who perform extraordinary services. most of them totally unknown by the american people. most don't think about that. you have a life of public service and want everything we
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do to be known. that's how we get elected. it's a different ethic than the central intelligence agency and i respect it very much. i wanted to go to the itc, the earned income tax credit and the interrogation techniques. i'm for both. i'm not for the second, but the first. you talk about the 6,000 pages. we are dealing with the central intelligence agency and various administrations. but trying to get information, why was it that we felt we were so unworthy of being trusted? why were they willing to talk to pat roberts and me and dianne feinstein, but not anybody else. until we literally bludgeoned
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them into agreeing to include everybody. karl levin is not trustworthy. it's amazing. i pursued dianne feinstein's point about staff. when you go and you have under the there was administration a briefing with the president or the vice president under the head of the cia and others, you are not allowed to -- i can remember driving with pat robert when is he was chair uh and i was vice chairman, we were not allowed to talk to each other driving up or back. we were not allowed to. the staff was a part of nothing. you have to understand that you are surrounded by people who work with you and fill you in. people were experts. we are too. they have to be part of this. they have to be part of when the
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olc is coming to them also. i strongly support the chair woman's view on this. in the enhanced intergirogation techniques matter, a handful of officials who were invested and are personally invested in defending the cia's interrogation program, largely because their reputations depend on it. the report to speak for the cia on this issue and i think it does all a great disservice. in high office, you and i discussed the landmark report on this program. you do understand that this took six years to write. not just 6,000 pages, but perhaps longer. 23,000 or 30,000. why did we do this? because we heard nothing from the intelligence agency.
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we had no way of being briefed. they would not tell us what was going on. we had did do our own and we are good at it. when you read the first 350 pages, you told me you were shot. that has to be fixed and changed forever. there can never be the situation again. we have to tell you what's going on and thus demoralizing the people who want to be relieved of the burden and the taint of bad techniques and interrogation. they suffer from that. yet nobody talks about that. we had to get that information on our own. it's a mag 95 cent pete of work and it will go down in history. it will define the separation of
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powers between the intelligence committees and the house and senate and the agency and others that relate to it. i'm very aware that this is crucial to the president's authority. not on the more modern question of the day about drones, but that determination is made by one person and alone. if there is a break down in protocol and break down in line of command, in reacting therefore into something therefore which is not good. too much collateral advantage. i would agree with the chairman. the work of the drone had been fairly safe. that has to be the purpose of the agency.
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therefore this detention interrogation program, i have to say it was the people who ran and were ignorant of the topic executed without relevant experience. they managed by senior official who is did not pay attention to details. corrupted by personnel and pe kuhniary conflicts of interest. the white house and the department of justice and congress with grossly inflated claims. it was a low point in our history and this document, this book should change that forever. i would hope very much that you would -- if you are confirmed which i hope you will be, you will make this at your discretion and required reading. they can go through the same
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experience you went through. are you willing to do that? >> taking advantage of whatever lessons come out of the chapter in history and the committee's report. >> how do you cross reference and me when i'm out of time. >> eight seconds. a long time. >> the cross referencing of the eit disaster and the future of the drone and the decisions that only the president can authorize, butt decision has to be a protocol which is exact and more exact even than the interrogation techniques. i think that's probably put to bed a bit to get straightened
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out. the drones are going to grow. there will be more and more of that warfare. that's just by other countries including by freem within our own country. so the protocol of that in so far as it refers to a particular agency is going to have to be exact and directed and particular excellence and exactitude. how will that happen? >> you make an excellent point and i'm interested in finding out what went wrong if this report is stated as accurate. what went wrong where there were systemic failures and there was information that was put forward. they are a covert activity taking place today under the direction of management and the cia. i would have the ob gigz to make sure i can say to the committee all the programs are being run
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effectively and well-manage and overseen and the measures of effectiveness, the results of the programs are an accurate and fair representation of what is happening. this raises serious questions about whether or not there serious systemic issues at lay here. i would need to get my arms around that and that would be a highest priority. >> thank you. >> thank you, senator rockefeller. senator burke? >> thank you, chair. welcome. thank you for your long history of public service and more importantly to your family. thank you for your willingness to put up with his hobby. most if not all the intelligence the finished anal kiss from source reports and the materials we don't see. we don't need to see all of them. in order to ensure we can
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perform the duties of the intelligence committee, would you agree they shouldn't be able to review the analytical product? >> on the face of that question, yes, my answer is yes, we would take a look at the issues involved in terms of what are we talking about in terms of access to that product? is it staff and members or whatever? your intention and objective, i fully support in making sure that they have a breath of an lytic expertise. as we go forward, there may be times where the committee needs the raw intelligence to judge the accuracy we are providing. if confirmed, will you provide the raw intelligence on the occasions when the committee requests it? >> i would give every request for the access to that information full consideration. that's my commitment to you.
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>> do you agree it's a function of this committee's oversight that occasionally we would need to look at it? >> i agree it's probably a function that you would have interest in doing that and it would be my obligation as the director of the cia to try to be as o com diting as possible to the interest while at the same time trying to respect whatever consideration taken into accouaccount as we do that. >> they are conducting a thorough inquiry into the attacks in benghazi, libya. the cia delayed and in some cases flatly refused to provide documents to the committee. if confirmed will you assure this committee this refusal will never happen again? >> i can commit i will do everything in my ability and my authority to be able to reach an accommodation with the committee that requests documents. an impasse between the executive
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and legislative branch on issues of such experience is not in the interest of the united states government. it would be my objective to see if we can meet those interests. at the same time our founding fathers separated the branches of government. i want to be mindful of that separation and at the same time meet your legitimate interests. >> they gave us the power of the purse. >> they're did, senator. i'm fully aware of that. >> that's the only tool and one we hate to use. do you think there is any situation where it's legal to disclose to the media or the public? these tales of covert action programs. >> i don't think it is ever appropriate to improperly disclose classified information to anybody who does not have legitimate access to it. >> i didn't ask for classified information. i specifically said covert
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action programs. >> by definition, they are classified, senator. >> i realize that. >> i do not believe it is appropriate to improperly disclose any of those details related to covert action programs. >> i will point out that in the committee prehearing questions, you didn't really answer a question that dealt with specific instances where you were authorized to disclose classified information to reporters. can you provide for the committee any times that you were given the authority to release classified information? >> i was never provided classified information to reporters. i engaged in discussions with reporters about classified issues that they might have had
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access to because of unfortunate leaks and i question friendly worked with reporters if not editors to keep out of the public domain. some of this country's most important issues, but after working after 30 years and being there for 25 years, i know the importance of keeping those secrets secret. >> have any of the conversations with the reporters or media consultants been recorded or have transcriptions of it? >> i have been on news network shows and engaged in conversations on the television and other things. i presume and know that they have been recorded on occasion. >> did you specifically ask not to be recorded? >> whenever i talk to reporters, i do so at the white house press office. i am not the one to establish
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the ground rule about whether or not they would be recorded. >> you said in your questions that in exceptional circumstances it may be necessary to acknowledge classified information to a member of the media. did you tell media commentator that is the united states had inside control or inside information on the aqap bomb plot in may of last year? >> when i had a teleconference with some officials from previous administrations who would be out on talk shows on the night, an ied was intercepted and discussed with them the aspects of that. i was going on news networks. i wanted to make sure they understood the nature and what it was and what it wasn't. i said i couldn't talk about operational details and this was shortly after the anniversary of the bin laden take down. we said so publicly that we had
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inside control of the plot and the device was never a threat. >> did you think that comment actually exposed sources or methods? >> i did not. there is an ongoing investigation about the unfortunate leak of information that was very, very damaging and i have voluntarily cooperated with the differently justice on it and have been interviewed -- >> there was one overseas shortly after that. i certainly had on numerous occasions u.s. officials who expressed to me the challenges they have gone through to try to make apologies to our partners. i personally sat down in london to have that apology conversation and it was very disruptive. very quickly, did you provide classified or otherwise sensitive information regarding the details of the raid? >> i did not, senator.
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>> do you know who disclosed information that prompted the secretary of defense, robert gates, to advise the white house to tell people to shut up? >> par would have to ask senator gates because i don't know. >> in conclusion, let me go back to the initial questions that the chair referred to. in that i think you might have taken her request on documents to be the documents that we have outstanding right now. she was referring to the future. let me say i hope that you take the opportunity. it is absolutely central. the documents have been requested and be supplied before the confirmation moves forward. i realize and i am not saying you were part of it, but it's essential that we get the documents before we begin and i hope you will deliver that message. i thank you.
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>> thank you, senator. >> thank you very much. >> thank you, madam. thank you for our discussions and the joint meeting you had with several of us on the committee last week. as we discussed then, i believe the issues before us really have nothing to do with political party and have everything to do with the checks and balances that make our system of government so special. taking the fight to al qaeda is something every member in the committee feels strongly about. it's the idea of giving any president unfettered power to kill an american without checks and balances that is so troubling. every american has the right to know when their government believes it's allowed to kill them. ensuring that the congress has the documents and information it needs to conduct robust oversight is central to our democracy. in fact, the committee was
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created in large part in response to the overside of programs that involve targeted killings. it was encouraging when the president called and indicated that effective immediately, he would release the documents necessary for senators to understand the full legal analysis of the president's authority to conduct the targeted killing of an american. what the president said is a good first step towards ensuring the openness and accountability that is important and you heard that reaffirmed in the chair's strong words right now. since last night however i have become concerned that the department of justice is not following through with the president's commitment just yet. 11 senators asked to see any and all legal opinions, but when i went to read the opinions this morning, it is not clear that that is what was provided.
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more over on this point with respect to lawyers, i think what the concern is is there is a double standard. the national security adviser and you volunteered and you are not a lawyer, you asked the lawyers and your experts to help you and we are trying to figure out how to wade through the documents. one of the reasons i'm concerned that it's not yet dleer what the president is committed to has been provided. finally the committee is stonewalled with respect to secret law. i'm going to leave this point by saying i hope you will go back to the white house and convey to them the message that the justice department is not yet following through on the president's commitment. >> very good. let me move to the public side
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of oversight, making sure that the public's right to know is respected. one part of overside is congressional. doing our work here and the other is making sure that the american people are brought in to these debates like james madison said. this is what you need to preserve a republic. i want to start with the drone issue. in a speech last year, the president struck to be more open about the use of drones to conduct targeted killings of al qaeda members. my question is, what should be done next to ensure that public conversation about drones so that the american people are brought in to this debate and have a full understanding of what rules the government will observe when it conducks targeted killings? >> the hearing is one of the things that can be done. i believe that there need to be
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continued speeches that will be given by the executive branch to explain our counter terrorism programs. i think there is a missed impression on the part of american people who believe that we take strikes to punish terrorists for past transgressions and nothing can be further from the truth. we take them as a last resort to save live when is there is no other alternative to taking an action that will mitigate the threat. we wanted to make sure there is an understanding and the people standing up here today, i think they really have a misunderstanding of what we do as a government and the care we take and the agony to make sure we don't have any collateral injuries and deaths. as the chairman said earlier, you need to say that publicly and openly. i think that's critically important. people are reacting to a lot of false hoots that are out there and i see it as part of my obligation and the obligation's
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committee to make sure the truth is known. >> i am convinced that there parts of drone policy that can be declassified consistent with national security.declassified consistent with national security and i hope that you will work with me on that if you are confirmed. let me ask you several other questions with regard to the president's authority to kill americans. i asked you how much authority the president needs to decide that a particular american can be lawfully killed and whether the administration believes that the president can use this authority inside the united states. what do you think needs to be done to make sure that members of the public understand more about when the government thinks it is allowed to kill them with regard to those two issues, both the question of evidence and the
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authority to use this power within the united states? >> i have been a strong proponent of trying to be as open as possible with these programs as far as explaining what we are doing. what we need to do is optimize transparency and at the same time optimize secrecy and protection of our national security. i don't think that it's one or the other. it's trying to optimize both of them. and so what we need to do is make sure we explain it to the american people what are the thresholds for action in what are the procedures, the practiceses, the process cease, the approvals, the reviews? the office of advice establishes the legal boundaries within which we can operate. it doesn't mean that we operate at those out of boundaries. in fact, i think the american people would like to know that we only use these authorities as a last resort. >> one other point with respect to public oversight. if the executive branch makes a mistake and kills the wrong person or a group of the wrong people, how should the
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government acknowledge that? >> i believe we need to acknowledge it. i believe we need to acknowledge it to our foreign partners and publicly. there are certain circumstances where there are consideration to be taken into account. as far as i'm concerned, if this type of action takes place in the interest of transparency, i believe the united states government should acknowledge it. >> and acknowledge it publicly? >> that would be the ideal and that would be the objective of the program. >> one last question, if i might. in my letter to you three weeks ago, i noted that i've been asking for over a year to receive the names of any and all courts where the intelligence community has used its lethal authorities. if confirmed, would you provide the full list of countries to the member of this committee and to our staff? >> i know that this is an outstanding request on your part. during our courtesy call, we
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discussed it. if i were to be confirmed as director of cia, i would get back to you and it would be my intention to do everything possible to meet this committee's interests and requests. >> i'm going to wrap up with one sentence on this point. as a matter of public record, mr. brennan, that the raid that killed osama bin laden was carried out under the authority of cia director leon panetta. that tells you that it's been used in one country. i want you to hear that if these authorities have been used in any other countries, you'll provide this committee with the full list. now, will you give us that assurance? >> you're talking about an historical list, are you not? as far as any time, anywhere where the cia was involved in such a lethal operation? >> yes. >> i would have to go back and take a look at that request. certainly anything that -- if i were to go to the cia and the cia was involved in any type of legal activity, i would make
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sure that the committee has that list. >> that's a good start. >> thank you, senator. >> senator rich? >> john bren mnan in the hot se today chaired by dianne feinstein asking some fiery questions. that was democrat from oregon, democrat ron with wyden bringing up an issue we anticipated, that being u.s. drones. it's been very much so in the bloodstream this week because of this memo that nbc news obtained from the department of justice talking about the legal justification from the white house. so he was peppering john brennan with questions. he's up to be the next cia chief, formally working under the president and chief counterterrorism and his advisers. so the legal justifications. he was saying to john brennan, look, if you are confirmed, please pass the memo to the white house that the doj needs to get us the information, members of the senate intelligence committee when it comes to why target certain americans overseas and that
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justification. so those are the kinds of questions that they are getting. you also heard earlier questions about enhanced interrogation techniques, i.e., waterboarding talking about what john brennan said to which members of the media when it comes to certain bits of classified information because there have been sensitive leaks from the administration. so some of the topics are being tackled here during this john brennan confirmation hearing. i want to play some video. this is what we tried to get to earlier at the top of this hearing. there were some protesters that popped out. take a look at me. chairman feinstein had to hit the gavel. do you hear her? >> if i might ask -- please clear the room. >> do you hear her asking these protesters, you see security clearing the protesters out of there. so the confirmation hearings were in recess for a couple of
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